Paul a blog reader sent me these links
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7710736047622561973&q=dan+zanger http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8202422563036820659&q=dan+zanger http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2623777107662847866&q=dan+zanger
Pretty interesting.
these are old vids from 2005
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these are old vids from 2005
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